The 2 Johns

John Woodley & John Staines

Also know as 'The 2 Johns'


Over the past five years you may have seen either one of the ‘2 Johns’ present at numerous key events in relation to the Online Child Sexual Exploitation of Children (OCSE). They have completed interviews for BBC Breakfast TV, BBC Radio 4, Channel 4 TV and numerous other local radio stations and have presented in schools across the UK.

As well as working with many individual schools and organisations ‘The 2 Johns’ are proud to work collaboratively with many partners to deliver various large scale community based projects. Over the past year the projects have included working with the following people:


  • The Basildon Community Safety Partnership and the Local Youth Service to deliver our Walk Online Roadshow ™ for local primary and secondary schoolsThe Uttlesford Schools Consortium to deliver the Walk Online Roadshow ™ across 17 local schools
  • The Tendering Community Safety Partnership to deliver the Walk Online Roadshow ™ and run sessions for the local Crucial Crew Events
  • Virgin Healthcare to help develop the updated ‘Healthy Schools’ benchmark document
  • The Uttlesford Community Safety Partnership to deliver training for UDC
  • The Essex Teacher Training College to deliver key training for new teachers
  • The Brentwood Community Safety Partnership to deliver our Walk Online Roadshow ™within all secondary schools in the area
  • The Blackwater River Partnership to deliver our Walk Online Roadshow ™ to numerous schools across the Maldon Area
  • The Essex County FA and various Head Teacher Associations to present at their annual conferences
  • Renew Counselling to provide OCSE training for their counsellors
  • Looking ahead to the next year ‘The 2 Johns’ are excited about new community partnership projects that are now being discussed.

Over the past year ‘The 2 Johns’ have delivered their Walk Online Roadshow ™ to in excess of 100000 young people and the feedback received has been continually outstanding and over the past few years ‘The 2 Johns’ have been keynote speakers at many professionals events sharing their expertise around all issues of Online Child Sexual Exploitation.


The 2 Johns are both qualified Police Trainers and EST E-Safety Training offer a large range of bespoke training options.

They are both CEOP Ambassador trainers and are qualified to deliver Think You Know (TUK) training courses. They trained every Youth Officer within Essex Police and qualified them to run E Safety assemblies in schools throughout Essex. 

They have delivered many presentations within schools and specialise in Parent and Teacher events. The feedback for their sessions has been outstanding and they would be happy to provide details of the schools they have worked within so as you may seek up to date testimonials.

They can be found on Facebook at ‘EST E Safety Training’ where you will see the numerous 5 star reviews and recommendations they have received.


Both are enhanced DBS checked and are happy to provide these details to people they arrange to work with.

Working with AVG at The Digital Kids Show - London

On Sunday 26th and Monday 27th May 2019 , AVG attended the Digital Kids Show in London along with EST E Safety Training to run workshops for parents and kids on how to keep safe online. We spoke with mums and dads to see how much they understand about what kids are sharing online and how #StrangerDanger is still relevant in the online world

BBC 2 - Victoria Derbyshire Show

In May 2019, John & John were invited by The BBC to present to the children at Arthur Bugler Primary School in Stanford-Le-Hope for an article about how children are groomed online through the game Roblox. The BBC filmed the presentation and interviewed John and John about how they felt children were at risk.

"I thought he was playing an innocent game"

Online multiplayer game Roblox, which has 90 million users worldwide, is marketed at children - but there are fears it also being used to groom them.

Reporter Rachel Stonehouse hears from one mother, who explains how this happened to her young son.

Roblox said its in-game chat had very stringent filters and any photo exchange would have been done on a third-party app, that is not "affiliated or integrated with Roblox".

It added: "It's extremely important to be aware of these chat apps, particularly [those with an] 'overlay' feature making it appear to be part of whatever game is being played."


See the full clip here

Walk Online Roadshow

The 2 Johns are very proud that following a recent inspection of Thurrock LSCB by OFSTED they singled out their Walk Online Roadshow as an example of outstanding practice, their positive words have given them even further motivation to take the Roadshow out to a wider audience.

So far the roadshow has been seen by over 80000 children over the past year taking in Basildon, Thurrock, Maldon, Saffron Walden, Braintree and Brentwood along with many individual schools.